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Patsrule711 · Apr 15, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Just switch to a Europe server?

Smile Like Umean It · Apr 15, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Patsrule711

Just switch to a Europe server?

So, you want America and Taiwan to switch to the European servers which are already notorious for having issues?

Well, I suppose that would force ANET to do something...

hwak_rick · Apr 15, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

From what I can remember was Europe very rarley had Favor and this was a great disapointment for me as I wanted to find out what all the fuss was about. Once we started getting it a lot I found it near on impossible to get teams as everyone was after solo or 2 man farms. This is not what UW is all about IMO, its about high level PvE.
I have since switched to PvP and found that a lot of Americans have switch to the European servers to PvP due to the lag on American servers. Not sure if this is true, but if it is lag has a large impact on PvP where as it dosnt effect PvE that much. This would explain why Europe has suddenly got favor a lot more, not that we have got dramaticly better.
I aggree that it would be nice to have favor all the time but it has been the same since the start with how favor worked. I think it was intended to try and get people playing PvP who normally would just PvE and im sure it has. I would prefer there to be ways of stopping the farming there than to change the favor system, that way people interested in playing the game the way it was meant would be able to do so more easily.
Also, some people may have prophosies only which would make it one of only a few high level areas, but with NF and Factions there is loads. I belive the people complaining about the favor system are people wanting to farm not play high level PvE so for that reason alone I have no pity for you, for those who want high lvl PvE then I do feel slightly sorry for you, but you are a small %.

Cynical Modder · Apr 18, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

ok. I'm gonna try this ONE MORE TIME!!!! From what I have read, EVERYONE seems to speak english here. This post was started to SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE!!!! WHO CARES about who has favor now. WHO CARES about who had favor back in 2005. I could give 2 F**KS about who has favor. Why you ask?? Because its "*"*"*PVP*"*"*". When you first create a character you have the option of wether it be Roleplaying or PvP. People choose Roleplaying cause they want to play "*"*"*PVE*"*"*". UW and FOW are for "*"*"*PVE*"*"*" characters. These sections SHOULD NOT be determined wether the other part of the game wins or loses. Try to change it so EVERYONE can be happy. Like for EXAMPLE, who ever has favor GETS IN FREE and who don't still PAYS!!! See how easy it is to come up with an idea? This way here we would ALL be happy. So STOP sittin there and writing out STUPID RETARDED replys about who has favor now and who has favor then, and wether to get over it. And on another note, WHO CARES if europe is a continent. WHO CARES how many countries are in europe. WHO CARES if america is bigger than europe. WHO CARES if someone thinks iraq is in australia. WTF does that HAVE TO DO with trying to make the UW/FOW NOT determined by PVP when its a PVE section. If I would have known there would be a bunch of DUMB S**Ts replying the most ignorant replys I would have typed it out in the very beginning so a CHILD would understand it. I didn't think I would have to SPELL it out. Now for the last time, IDEAS people. IDEAS. For once America and Europe work together on something to make us ALL happy. No crap about then and now and this and that. Be real.

matt_longbow · Apr 18, 2007, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Poor dead horse.

....can we get a lock on this?

/signed this is getting out of hand.

Stiltzkin · Apr 18, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Cynical Modder

ok. I'm gonna try this ONE MORE TIME!!!! From what I have read, EVERYONE seems to speak english here. This post was started to SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE!!!! WHO CARES about who has favor now. WHO CARES about who had favor back in 2005. I could give 2 F**KS about who has favor. Why you ask?? Because its "*"*"*PVP*"*"*". When you first create a character you have the option of wether it be Roleplaying or PvP. People choose Roleplaying cause they want to play "*"*"*PVE*"*"*". UW and FOW are for "*"*"*PVE*"*"*" characters. These sections SHOULD NOT be determined wether the other part of the game wins or loses. Try to change it so EVERYONE can be happy. Like for EXAMPLE, who ever has favor GETS IN FREE and who don't still PAYS!!! See how easy it is to come up with an idea? This way here we would ALL be happy. So STOP sittin there and writing out STUPID RETARDED replys about who has favor now and who has favor then, and wether to get over it. And on another note, WHO CARES if europe is a continent. WHO CARES how many countries are in europe. WHO CARES if america is bigger than europe. WHO CARES if someone thinks iraq is in australia. WTF does that HAVE TO DO with trying to make the UW/FOW NOT determined by PVP when its a PVE section. If I would have known there would be a bunch of DUMB S**Ts replying the most ignorant replys I would have typed it out in the very beginning so a CHILD would understand it. I didn't think I would have to SPELL it out. Now for the last time, IDEAS people. IDEAS. For once America and Europe work together on something to make us ALL happy. No crap about then and now and this and that. Be real.

breathe in....breathe out.....breathe in....breathe out. Any thread turns to discussion. Sometimes it is not the exact answer you want. I have seen threads about dye turn to farming threads. If you really want more information just start reading everything everyone typed. Everyone gave answers and some just put in random opinions of something someone else talked about. If you really want to do something about it, find a group, go into HA, kick some trash. That or just switch over to Euro server and then you have your UW and FoW 60-75% of the time

Correct Jeans · Apr 18, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Well, heres how I reacted to Europe always taking the HoH. I...WENT AND WON THE HALL!! Not only can u get favor from it. There are some GREAT drops from those chests. If you dont kno how to get there, u win RA 5 times in a row, and then win TA 5 times (do not have to be in a row), and u make it to HA, where u win 8 (usually less because of jumps) in a row for the ability to battle in the HoH. Life is great.

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 18, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

It makes no sense to me why PvP should have an effect on PvE. How would the people who do HA feel if they had to wait for a PvE event so that they could do battle. Instead of 1K to enter maybe they should have changing items needed to get in so that you still had earn your way in but independent of any PvP results.

Div · Apr 18, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37

It makes no sense why the OP can't use the search function and find out there's about 10000 other threads about this already. Seriously, we don't need more trash like this.

filipino=pinoy · Apr 18, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Move to Europe server, problem solved.

Smile Like Umean It · Apr 18, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by filipino=pinoy

Move to Europe server, problem solved.

Have you read this thread? Or even just the top of the page?
Having everyone switch to a different server isn't going to solve anything. In fact, the only thing I can see happening is even more problems with other players.

joe mommas · Apr 19, 2007, 04:51 AM // 04:51

yea i think that everyone should have the favor at all time cuz u know im stuck in america bcuz i for some reason thought i had one more switch so i berely get in the UW and fow and i think it is super unfair and i think a-net should make this change maybe a petition?

joe mommas · Apr 19, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

and also getting in an HA grp without being rank like 8 or so is retarted cuz u wont even win one battle as for me i have 33 fame and only got that much bxuz my friend was bored and he used his heroes and i tagged along but that was b4 the update so now u have to bring pl so i think HA is stupid and it is PVP!!!!!! y should that affect PvE?????? sum1 contact a-net and get this problem solved!!!!!!!!!!

Cynical Modder · Apr 19, 2007, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by joe mommas

and also getting in an HA grp without being rank like 8 or so is retarted cuz u wont even win one battle as for me i have 33 fame and only got that much bxuz my friend was bored and he used his heroes and i tagged along but that was b4 the update so now u have to bring pl so i think HA is stupid and it is PVP!!!!!! y should that affect PvE?????? sum1 contact a-net and get this problem solved!!!!!!!!!!

That's what we have been discussing. And as far as contacting Anet, I already have. Sent them more than one. And this is what they said.

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars Support Team

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support about this.

We encourage you to consider posting your suggestions on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite message boards. A compiled list can be found on the official Guild Wars web site at http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/. By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community wants to see in Guild Wars. Fansite forums make it easy and efficient for us to learn from those playing the game.

Thank you for your efforts in assisting us to make Guild Wars the best gaming experience possible.

Regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team

And then I replyed to them and this is what they said.

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars Support Team

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support again.

Your feedback and suggestions are important to us. Posting suggestions and feedback on fansite forums is the best way to make sure that the developers see them.

In fact, discussing your suggestions on public message boards can often be more beneficial than directly contacting the Guild Wars team. We ask for players to share feedback or ideas on the message boards because the resulting discussions can quickly give us a broader perspective than one-on-one conversations.

Even though you may not receive a direct response to a post, the developers check the forums regularly, and this allows them to get a feel for the issues and features that are most important to the players.

Kind Regards,
The Guild Wars Support Team

So as you can see here,

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars Support Team

the resulting discussions can quickly give us a broader perspective than one-on-one conversations.

This is the exact reason for me starting this thread. The more people that say something about it, the more chance that it will have a possibility to be changed. And you are right. PvE should not be Affected by PvP. And as far as recent replys, I don't care if this whole forum is nothing about favor. I don't care if there is 500,000 threads about favor. The more there is, and the more people have an idea or something, the more chance there is of getting something done. As far as someone saying something about switching servers, even doin that is limited and once you run out of switches, your screwed and AGAIN, that don't fix the problem. And for any future posting, seeing how everyone has to have an opinion instead of an idea, I am American. But I don't favor neither America or Europe. Both should have equal opportunity. And the messed up thing, one of our motto's that are known from other countries, "We are the land of opportuniy." Take that to the bank.

Perynne · Apr 19, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45

People seem to be pretty America vs Europe oriented when it comes to having favour. But what about the Asian countries that are getting the short end of the stick right now? They're getting ignored the most. I really think something must be broken if it means a huge portion of the game is basically not accessible to many players.

And the "if you got a problem with it, go play HA" argument is just... stupid. How would PvP people feel like if HA or GvG could only be accessed through some really inane, nearly impossible and annoying PvE portion? It would suck, big time. So why should PvE players have to put up with having tons of content unreachable just because they are not into PvP?

If Anet wants to keep FoW and UW as high-end areas that need some effort to get into, at least make it something attainable through PvE. Even raising the price would be ok. And if they keep it tied to PvP, maybe have it so that the country who holds favour can go there for free, and the countries that don't have favour need to pay a bit of gold for the chance.

Yanman.be · Apr 19, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by Perynne

How would PvP people feel like if HA or GvG could only be accessed through some really inane, nearly impossible and annoying PvE portion?

Hello Zaishen!

viper11025 · Apr 19, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Why Dont the guru admins make a tab for Builds also and include ALL good GVG/PVP/PVE Builds that have been proven to work?
It's a hard task but the submiter should include info on the build, like it's purpose and a brief explaination with a screenshot too boot.

Darko_UK · Apr 19, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

I'm Europe, It's unfair the way we have favour for so long

Etta · Apr 19, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Speak for yourself, Darko lol.

joe mommas · Apr 19, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

TO CYNICAL MODDER: i completely agree with u and im not completely sure if a-net looks at these threads but the more complaints the better chance you say? well can u tell me were i can possible ask them to change it so pvp does not affect pve? ide appreciate a website or sumthing that u went to to complain about it. thnx in advance

Apr 15, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#41
Patsrule711 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusttes Guild: None right now Profession: W/	Just switch to a Europe server?

Apr 15, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15	#43
hwak_rick Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006	From what I can remember was Europe very rarley had Favor and this was a great disapointment for me as I wanted to find out what all the fuss was about. Once we started getting it a lot I found it near on impossible to get teams as everyone was after solo or 2 man farms. This is not what UW is all about IMO, its about high level PvE. I have since switched to PvP and found that a lot of Americans have switch to the European servers to PvP due to the lag on American servers. Not sure if this is true, but if it is lag has a large impact on PvP where as it dosnt effect PvE that much. This would explain why Europe has suddenly got favor a lot more, not that we have got dramaticly better. I aggree that it would be nice to have favor all the time but it has been the same since the start with how favor worked. I think it was intended to try and get people playing PvP who normally would just PvE and im sure it has. I would prefer there to be ways of stopping the farming there than to change the favor system, that way people interested in playing the game the way it was meant would be able to do so more easily. Also, some people may have prophosies only which would make it one of only a few high level areas, but with NF and Factions there is loads. I belive the people complaining about the favor system are people wanting to farm not play high level PvE so for that reason alone I have no pity for you, for those who want high lvl PvE then I do feel slightly sorry for you, but you are a small %.

Apr 18, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58	#44
Cynical Modder Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: The Saphires Profession: W/	ok. I'm gonna try this ONE MORE TIME!!!! From what I have read, EVERYONE seems to speak english here. This post was started to SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE!!!! WHO CARES about who has favor now. WHO CARES about who had favor back in 2005. I could give 2 F*KS about who has favor. Why you ask?? Because its """PVP""". When you first create a character you have the option of wether it be Roleplaying or PvP. People choose Roleplaying cause they want to play """PVE""". UW and FOW are for """PVE""" characters. These sections SHOULD NOT be determined wether the other part of the game wins or loses. Try to change it so EVERYONE can be happy. Like for EXAMPLE, who ever has favor GETS IN FREE and who don't still PAYS!!! See how easy it is to come up with an idea? This way here we would ALL be happy. So STOP sittin there and writing out STUPID RETARDED replys about who has favor now and who has favor then, and wether to get over it. And on another note, WHO CARES if europe is a continent. WHO CARES how many countries are in europe. WHO CARES if america is bigger than europe. WHO CARES if someone thinks iraq is in australia. WTF does that HAVE TO DO with trying to make the UW/FOW NOT determined by PVP when its a PVE section. If I would have known there would be a bunch of DUMB S*Ts replying the most ignorant replys I would have typed it out in the very beginning so a CHILD would understand it. I didn't think I would have to SPELL it out. Now for the last time, IDEAS people. IDEAS. For once America and Europe work together on something to make us ALL happy. No crap about then and now and this and that. Be real.

Apr 18, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#47
Correct Jeans Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE! Guild: Free Willzyx [MASA] Profession: E/Me	Well, heres how I reacted to Europe always taking the HoH. I...WENT AND WON THE HALL!! Not only can u get favor from it. There are some GREAT drops from those chests. If you dont kno how to get there, u win RA 5 times in a row, and then win TA 5 times (do not have to be in a row), and u make it to HA, where u win 8 (usually less because of jumps) in a row for the ability to battle in the HoH. Life is great.

Apr 18, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59	#48
Rocky Raccoon Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Massachusetts, USA Guild: Guardians of the Cosmos Profession: R/Mo	It makes no sense to me why PvP should have an effect on PvE. How would the people who do HA feel if they had to wait for a PvE event so that they could do battle. Instead of 1K to enter maybe they should have changing items needed to get in so that you still had earn your way in but independent of any PvP results.

Apr 18, 2007, 05:37 PM // 17:37	#49
Div I like yumy food! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where I can eat yumy food Guild: Dead Alley [dR] Profession: Mo/R	It makes no sense why the OP can't use the search function and find out there's about 10000 other threads about this already. Seriously, we don't need more trash like this.

Apr 18, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44	#50
filipino=pinoy Banned Join Date: Mar 2007	Move to Europe server, problem solved.

Apr 19, 2007, 04:51 AM // 04:51	#52
joe mommas Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: School Of Hard Knocks [SOHK] Profession: W/E	yea i think that everyone should have the favor at all time cuz u know im stuck in america bcuz i for some reason thought i had one more switch so i berely get in the UW and fow and i think it is super unfair and i think a-net should make this change maybe a petition?

Apr 19, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55	#53
joe mommas Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: School Of Hard Knocks [SOHK] Profession: W/E	and also getting in an HA grp without being rank like 8 or so is retarted cuz u wont even win one battle as for me i have 33 fame and only got that much bxuz my friend was bored and he used his heroes and i tagged along but that was b4 the update so now u have to bring pl so i think HA is stupid and it is PVP!!!!!! y should that affect PvE?????? sum1 contact a-net and get this problem solved!!!!!!!!!!

Apr 19, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45	#55
Perynne Site Contributor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finland Guild: Runners of the Rose [RR] Profession: R/	People seem to be pretty America vs Europe oriented when it comes to having favour. But what about the Asian countries that are getting the short end of the stick right now? They're getting ignored the most. I really think something must be broken if it means a huge portion of the game is basically not accessible to many players. And the "if you got a problem with it, go play HA" argument is just... stupid. How would PvP people feel like if HA or GvG could only be accessed through some really inane, nearly impossible and annoying PvE portion? It would suck, big time. So why should PvE players have to put up with having tons of content unreachable just because they are not into PvP? If Anet wants to keep FoW and UW as high-end areas that need some effort to get into, at least make it something attainable through PvE. Even raising the price would be ok. And if they keep it tied to PvP, maybe have it so that the country who holds favour can go there for free, and the countries that don't have favour need to pay a bit of gold for the chance.

Apr 19, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22	#57
viper11025 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle) Profession: A/	Why Dont the guru admins make a tab for Builds also and include ALL good GVG/PVP/PVE Builds that have been proven to work? It's a hard task but the submiter should include info on the build, like it's purpose and a brief explaination with a screenshot too boot.

Apr 19, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33	#58
Darko_UK Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England Profession: R/	I'm Europe, It's unfair the way we have favour for so long

Apr 19, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34	#59
Etta Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mancland, British Empire	Speak for yourself, Darko lol.

Apr 19, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#60
joe mommas Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: School Of Hard Knocks [SOHK] Profession: W/E	TO CYNICAL MODDER: i completely agree with u and im not completely sure if a-net looks at these threads but the more complaints the better chance you say? well can u tell me were i can possible ask them to change it so pvp does not affect pve? ide appreciate a website or sumthing that u went to to complain about it. thnx in advance